1908–09 Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball team

The 1908–09 Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball team represented Georgetown University during the 1908–09 Intercollegiate Athletic Association of the United States college basketball season. Maurice Joyce coached the team in his second season as head coach.[1] Georgetown was an independent and after its home opener at the Convention Hall at 5th and K Streets NW in downtown Washington, D.C., where it had played home games the previous season played its home games at the Odd Fellows Hall at 8th and D Streets NW in downtown Washington.[2] The team finished the season with a record of 9-5.

1908–09 Georgetown Hoyas men's basketball
Southern Champion
ConferenceIndependent
Record95
Head coach
  • Maurice Joyce (2nd season)
CaptainFred Rice (1st year)
Home arenaOdd Fellows Hall
1908–09 IAAUS men's basketball independents standings
ConfOverall
TeamW L PCTW L PCT
Illinois State 90  1.000
New York University 120  1.000
Ohio State 111  .917
Oregon State 101  .909
Trinity 81  .889
Montana State 81  .889
Dayton 122  .857
Wake Forest 61  .857
Allegheny 112  .846
Washington 51  .833
Notre Dame 337  .825
Army 92  .818
Rhode Island 72  .778
Pennsylvania 196  .760
Bucknell 93  .750
Wabash 93  .750
North Dakota State 114  .733
Navy 83  .727
Temple 83  .727
Butler 52  .714
Seton Hall 104  .714
Maine 73  .700
William & Mary 73  .700
Dartmouth 115  .688
Kansas State 63  .667
Michigan State 105  .667
Virginia 63  .667
Virginia Tech 42  .667
Georgetown 95  .643
Brigham Young 74  .636
Washington State 106  .625
Cincinnati 64  .600
St. John's (NY) 96  .600
Colorado 43  .571
Cornell 1310  .565
Kentucky 54  .556
Colgate 76  .538
Penn State 76  .538
Fordham 1312  .520
Arizona 11  .500
Lehigh 55  .500
Ohio 11  .500
Oklahoma 33  .500
Wyoming 33  .500
Yale 99  .500
Syracuse 78  .467
Bradley 67  .462
Canisius 34  .429
Idaho 710  .412
Mount Union 711  .389
Princeton 813  .381
Brown 510  .333
Holy Cross 48  .333
Oklahoma State 12  .333
Manhattan 410  .286
Utah 38  .273
Indiana State 27  .222
Niagara 27  .222
Utah State 18  .111
South Carolina 03  .000
Rankings from AP Poll

Season recap

Freshman forward-center Frank Schlosser joined the team this season and played in all 14 games, immediately establishing himself as a scoring mainstay. He led the team in scoring, as he would in all four years of his career; this season he scored 128 points, averaging 9.1 points per game.[3]

Georgetown University Law School student and forward Fred Rice was in his second season with the Hoyas. He started all 14 games the Hoyas played, scoring 34 field goals and shooting 42-for-75 (56.0%) from the free-throw line for a total of 110 points and a 7.9 points per game. He finished second only to Schlosser in scoring for the year.[3]

The team's nine wins this season included victories over basketball powers Virginia, Navy, and Penn State. Walter C. Foster, writing for Spalding's Basketball Guide, picked Georgetown as Southern champion.[4]

Roster

Sources[5][6]

Georgetown players did not wear numbers on their jerseys this season. The first numbered jerseys in Georgetown men's basketball history would not appear until the 1933-34 season.[7]

Forward James Colliflower, a Georgetown University Law School student and three-season letterman in his second of three years playing with the team, would later serve as Georgetown's head coach during the 1911-12, 1912-13, 1913-14, and 1921-22 seasons.[1]

Name Height Weight (lbs.) Position Class Hometown Previous Team(s)
George Colliflower N/A N/A F Grad. Stud. Washington, DC, U.S. Georgetown Preparatory School
(North Bethesda, MD)
James Colliflower N/A N/A F Grad. Stud. Washington, DC, U.S. Georgetown Preparatory School
(North Bethesda, MD)
Richard Downey N/A N/A C Grad. Stud. N/A N/A
George Goggin N/A N/A G Jr. N/A N/A
George Keliher N/A N/A F Jr. Washington, DC, U.S. United States Army
Richard Kingsley N/A N/A G N/A Washington, DC, U.S. Georgetown Preparatory School
(North Bethesda, MD)
Fred Rice N/A N/A C Grad. Stud. Washington, DC, U.S. George Washington University
Frank Schlosser N/A N/A C Fr. Washington, DC, U.S. United States Army
Billy Sitterding N/A N/A G Fr. Richmond, VA, U.S. N/A

1908–09 schedule and results

Sources[8][9][10][11]

It was common practice at this time for colleges and universities to include non-collegiate opponents in their schedules, with the games recognized as part of their official record for the season, and the games against the Washington YMCA all counted as part of Georgetown's won-loss record for 1908-09. It was not until 1952, after the completion of the 1951-52 season, that the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) ruled that colleges and universities could no longer count games played against non-collegiate opponents in their annual won-loss records.[12]

Georgetown met Navy for the first time this season, playing the Midshipmen three times and winning two of the games. It was the last success Georgetown would have against Navy until 1928; the Hoyas would lose 15 straight games to the Midshipmen in the interim.[13]

Date
time, TV
Opponent Result Record Site
city, state
Regular Season
Thu., Dec. 17, 1908
no, no
Penn State W 4922  1-0
Convention Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Dec. 19, 1908
no, no
at Navy L 3233  1-1
Dahlgren Hall 
Annapolis, MD
Sat., Dec. 26, 1908
no, no
at Washington YMCA L 2237  1-2
YMCA Hall 
Washington, DC
Mon., Dec. 28, 1908
no, no
Columbia cancelled Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 2, 1909
no, no
at Navy W 2624  2-2
Dahlgren Hall 
Annapolis, MD
Mon., Jan. 4, 1909
no, no
Vanderbilt cancelled Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 9, 1909
no, no
Fordham cancelled Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 9, 1909
no, no
at Washington YMCA W 2821  3-2
YMCA Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 16, 1909
no, no
Swarthmore cancelled Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 23, 1909
no, no
at Navy W 2623  4-2
Dahlgren Hall 
Annapolis, MD
Wed., Jan. 27, 1909
no, no
at Washington YMCA L 2333  4-3
YMCA Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Jan. 30, 1909
no, no
at Virginia W 3524  5-3
Fayerweather Gymnasium 
Charlottesville, VA
Wed., Feb. 3, 1909
no, no
at Columbia L 1023  5-4
University Heights Gymnasium 
New York, NY
Sat., Feb. 6, 1909
no, no
Washington and Lee W 6015  6-4
Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Sat., Feb. 13, 1909
no, no
at Loyola W 6225  7-4
5th Regiment Armory 
Baltimore, MD
Mon., Feb. 22, 1909
no, no
Fordham W 2719  8-4
Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
Fri., Feb. 26, 1909
no, no
at Cornell L 2122  8-5
N/A 
Ithaca, NY
Sat., Feb. 27, 1909
no, no
Virginia W 3619  9-5
Odd Fellows Hall 
Washington, DC
*Non-conference game. (#) Tournament seedings in parentheses.

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